Tuesday, May 22, 2007

Liberty U Student with Firebombs!

Holy shit! A Liberty University student was stopped with Molotov cocktails in his car, which he planned to use to "stop protests" at Falwell's funeral! There are, it seems, at least three other suspects, too - it's a conspiracy to burn protesters alive.

Somehow, I doubt he'll be treated under the Patriot Act as a terrorists. It's only brown non-Christians who want to firebomb protests that are terrorists, right?

(Via SLOG)


beepbeepitsme said...

To me it is the sign of a fantic. Fanatics come in all political and religious shapes and sizes. Now we only need the christians to acknowledge this as they seem content to acknowledge that other religions breed fanaticism, but not their own.

Stew said...

The logic goes: THEY are fanatacs, WE are True Believers. Since we have The Truth, our total dedication to the cause is justified and transcends human laws.

beepbeepitsme said...


RE: "WE are True Believers."

It's disturbing to me that for many people in the world faith is the methodology they use to determine truth. It essentially means they have no definable process to determine truth.

Millions of people are taught that to doubt information, or to be skeptical of information is a bad thing. This appears to be in complete contradiction with most academic or intellectual pursuits where doubt and skepticism are an important part of determining truth.

Chris Bradley said...


Yeah, I'd like it if Christians started recognizing the fanaticism inherent in any belief system -- and especially one that teaches a "better place" and a world beyond this one (or, as in the case of, say, Marxism the terrible belief in violent revolution and the idea that blood is the grease on the wheels of history -- and I say this as a person who largely identifies as a socialist; the Marxist heaven, stolen from Hegel, is the culmination of history, which is as much a fantasy as anything in the Bible, IMO).

We live here. We do it now. I think when people miss sight of this they tend towards fanaticism of the murderous variety.

Chris Bradley said...


Oh, yeah, that seems to be the general gist of it, doesn't it?

I think Beep has a point, too, that these people have a problem with information, a hostility towards it, because it interferes with their faith.

But I definitely agree that the certainty of religious beliefs motivates people to make slow-burning molotov cocktails to burn other people to death.

beepbeepitsme said...


Yes. I wouldn't make a "good fanatic." There is always the possibility that I may be wrong on may issues. I recognise that skepticism and doubt is fundamental to the acquisition of new knowledge or information.

Those, however, who have absolute faith that their worldview or that their beliefs are absolutely correct; do not excerise doubt and skepticism. This makes them dangerous to others - fanatically dangerous.

Intergalactic Hussy said...

I don't like how terror is often misused. Being a "terrorist" is not solely about Islamic fanaticism in definition. If you instill terror, you are a terrorist. No matter you creed, color, etc. When will the religious Christian right stop portraying otherwise?

Chris Bradley said...


I don't like it, either. I don't think the word has any real meaning. I prefer more specific terms, really. Terrorism is always a label applied to someone to create a negative gut-level reaction, usually meant to destroy communications, not enhance it. ;)